
Odigie-Oyegun
The National Chairman of the All Progressives Congress, Chief John Odigie-Oyegun, in this interview with ALEXANDER OKERE, speaks on the party’s preparations for the 2015 presidential election, Ekiti judicial fracas and other issues.
There are fears that the oncoming presidential primary of the APC will tear your party apart.
Well, there may be disagreements but we
always overcome them. We have survived all the predictions so far. That
one too will come and it will pass. We have insisted we are going to
have a level-playing field. There is no anointed candidate to the best
of my knowledge and we are issuing a code of conduct to the aspirants –
that will ensure that the run-up to the primary will be rancour-free in
terms of personal attacks. People must state their merits. But it is not
within the rules to say why somebody else shouldn’t get it. We are
trying to have as wide an electorate as possible, giving the fact that
conventions hold in just a single venue. Whoever comes out successful
from the primary becomes the person behind whom the entire party will
unite.
The Peoples Democratic Party have
opted for a consensus candidate by endorsing President Goodluck
Jonathan. Is the APC not likely to toe the line?
We don’t believe in a forced consensus. I
don’t want to comment on what the PDP did but that was a forced
consensus. If by tomorrow, all our aspirants come to me and say, “Mr.
National Chairman, we have all agreed that out of three, four or five of
us, this man will be the preferred candidate,” we will support him
because as at today, to my mind, each of those who have indicated
interest in one form or the other in the APC is capable of beating
whoever the PDP presents. We have no problem with all the candidates in
the APC deciding that one of them should proceed. Otherwise, we are
going to do the right thing, the democratic thing, which is a free and
fair convention.
But there are indications that
the APC wants to field a northerner for the presidential election. Must
the candidate come from the North?
We would like to challenge anybody to
tell us when we decided that our candidate must come from the North. We
have interested persons from the southern parts of this country. As a
matter of fact, it is only the PDP that has decided where its candidate
must come from and denied any other aspirants from elsewhere from
raising their heads to aspire to become president. But for us, whoever
wants to be president is free to come into the race. In fact, I pray
that every state will have a presidential aspirant because they help in
mobilising. But the important thing is that they all agree that at the
end of the day that only one person will be the candidate and that they
all unite behind that person. That is what the APC stands for and that
is what we are doing.
How set is the party for the governorship bye-election in Adamawa?
We are very prepared. I’ll be there. We
have a brilliant candidate (Jubrilla Bindo) and the factors on the
ground favour the APC candidate. I’m confident that we are going to get
back the governorship of Adamawa State.
Can you react to the statement credited to Chief Tom Ikimi that he “cooked the food” called the APC, which you took away?
The whole thing is turning to be a bad
joke. I think we should let it be. He has said what he wants to say. I
do not know of any stage in any party when he was of such overriding
influence that he cooked the food for everybody to eat. But again, as
usual, to put modestly, it is an over exaggeration of his role in the
party.
Yes, the (then) Action Congress of
Nigeria chose him as the leader of their team and the entire group made
him chairman of the process after the leaders of the various parties had
agreed to come together. We just needed somebody to chair the
negotiating session. So, if that means that he cooked the food, let him
enjoy the accolade he is giving himself. I would not want to deprive him
of that personal crowning of himself. But all that is now history; what
concerns us today is the future.
Has his exist not created a gap within the APC?
No party wants to lose anybody. But if
there are people who are not ideologically attuned to where the APC
stands, it is best for the party that such people go where they are at
home. Just like we lose some, we are gaining some. I was in Kogi a few
weeks back to welcome seven sitting members of the House of Assembly.
That is a useful addition. That is the type of quality addition that the
APC is getting all over the place and we are expecting more.
President Jonathan has threatened that the PDP would win back Edo and Rivers in 2015 and 2016….
What did you want him to say? That they
will win Edo and Rivers, of course, is out of the question because we
have very strong governors in those two states. Edo has been under the
APC although there have been one or two skirmishes. But for the Rivers
governor to have survived the onslaughts, including major ones by
concentrated security agencies, with Aso Rock backing; for him to have
survived, for him to have thrived and for him not to have lost control
of the state legislature tells you that he has something a little bit
more than the ordinary and that he is firmly in control of the politics
in Rivers State.
It appears the APC in Ekiti State
is bent on stopping the inauguration of the Governor-elect, Mr. Ayodele
Fayose. What’s your view?
The APC plans to get the judicial system
to decide whether we are a country of law and order or not. Or whether
the laws of the country still mean anything or whether impeachment has
almost the same force as a criminal offence. Stopping him or not is a
matter that will be left to the court to decide. We have gone to court
to seek the interpretation of the laws of the nation on whether he
(Fayose) was qualified to have even contested to be governor of Ekiti
State. Worthy of emphasis are the very unprecedented events that are
happening in Ekiti; like the humiliation of the judiciary and violence
in the sacred chambers of justice. Has this country degenerated to that
extent? What does it portend for the nation that a political leader will
physically lead a team to manhandle judicial officers in the sacred
chambers of justice? It has never happened in this country before. I am
waiting anxiously to see how the judges themselves will react. Will they
get cowed again by the power structures of the nation or will they
stand up for themselves to say that it must not happen?
How did you receive the news of the disruption?
I was truly traumatised. I know this
country has degenerated but I did not know that it had degenerated that
far. I personally did not go to receive the national award of CON
(Commander of the Niger) because at that stage I just couldn’t put
myself together to say, “No, this cannot happen in our country.” And I
cannot go to receive an award when the hall of justice of this country
has been so terribly desecrated without any forceful reaction by the
Federal Government. The shock was a bit too much for me to wear an
“agbada,” smiling and shaking the hands of the Federal Government.
How would you respond to the play
up of ethnicity and tribalism in your own state, Edo State, ahead of
the 2015 general elections?
In the entire nation, what do we have
today? We have religious and ethnic politics. Even at the federal level,
we have what is now known in the media as religious tourism. We have
our leaders who now go to churches to prostrate. Some of the photographs
we see now are so embarrassing, when the symbol of a whole nation, our
independence and pride is there prostrating.
So, it’s not just in Edo State. The
ethnic thing is very loud and clear. Otherwise, why would anybody in his
right senses say that APC is a Boko Haram party? The party is led by a
Christian and a Catholic
Some say the South-West has been
Islamised by Jihadists. But all the governors there are married to
Christian wives. We wonder whether the people doing these things
understand the cleavage they are creating in the society. They are
people who want power so badly that it does not matter the bitterness
and enmity that they create between ethnic and religious groups. We are
now polarised in a way we have never been in this country.
So in their desperation, they are using
all these extreme measures and we just pity them. We hope that this
country will be wise enough to put us in office in February so that we
can start rolling back the dangerous forces that have been unleashed on
this nation.
Punchng
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